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John Jacob GREENLAND

Male 1873 - 1953  (79 years)


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  • Name John Jacob GREENLAND  [1, 2, 3] 
    Born 25 Oct 1873  Tipton, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 4, 5] 
    Christened 12 Nov 1873  Tipton, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6] 
    Gender Male 
    Census 3 Apr 1881  3a Round Tower Lane, Pier District, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7] 
    Age: 8 
    Education 29 Sep 1884  Royal Merchant Orphan Asylum, Hermon Hill, Snaresbrook, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8] 
    Admission register shows John was admitted at age 11. His legal guardian is recorded as James Durden, Dover Harbour Master, and his place was recommended by G J Ovenden, a Pilot at East Cliffe, Folkestone. John had been educated to '3 Standard' level at the Parish School in Dover.  
    Age: 11 
    Address:
    http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/SnaresbrookSeamen/ 
    Education 8 Oct 1884  Royal Merchant Orphan Asylum, Hermon Hill, Snaresbrook, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9] 
    John gained a place at the Merchant Seamen's Orphan School on Harmon Hill, Snaresbrook, London

    London Evening Standard - 08 October 1884
    MR JAMES DURDEN, Harbour Master at Dover, desires to THANK those who assisted him by their VOTES in getting into to MERCHANT SEAMEN'S ORPHAN SCHOOL JOHN JACOB GREENLAND, who was elected by 665 Votes. 
    Age: 10 
    Education 9 Jan 1887  Royal Merchant Orphan Asylum, Hermon Hill, Snaresbrook, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [10] 
    John is listed as one of the boys who will leave the asylum on October 25th 1887.

    He had left the institution by 1888 as he does not appear in that annual report.

    His biography in each report is identical so only one has been transcribed. 
    Age: 14 
    Address:
    http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/SnaresbrookSeamen/ 
    Education 25 Oct 1887  Royal Merchant Orphan Asylum, Hermon Hill, Snaresbrook, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9] 
    John is recorded as finishing his education and leaving the Asylum, on his 15th birthday.  
    Age: 15 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  143 Clarendon Place, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    Occupation: Seaman 
    Age: 27 
    Census 2 Apr 1911  On board the 'Calais', moored in Calais Harbour, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation: 1st Mate 
    Age: 37 
    Education 1885  Royal Merchant Orphan Asylum, Hermon Hill, Snaresbrook, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [12] 
    69. GREENLAND, JOHN JACOB, born 25th October 1873; father was a seaman, and was drowned at Dover, 26th August, 1883. The mother being also dead. Four children are dependent on friends. Mr J. Durden, Council House, Dover, admitted September 29th 1884. 
    Age: 12 
    1939 Register 29 Sep 1939  23 Malmains Road, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [13] 
    Occupation: Senior Bathing Master (Retired) 
    Age: 65 
    Died 1953  Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [14] 
    Person ID I1517  WILLIS01
    Last Modified 14 Jul 2020 

    Father Jacob Winter GREENLAND,   b. 27 Jul 1831, Folkestone, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Aug 1883, Outer Harbour, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 52 years) 
    Mother Mary Ann MAYNE,   b. 1836, Stonehouse, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Oct 1881, 3, Round Tower Lane, Dover St Mary the Virgin, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 45 years) 
    Married 12 Jan 1865  St Mary, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [15, 16] 
    BMD Records
    MARRIAGE: GREENLAND, Jacob & MAYNE, Mary Ann - 1865    		MARRIAGE: GREENLAND, Jacob & MAYNE, Mary Ann - 1865
    Family ID F276  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Grace Isobel CROOT,   b. 1876, Bayswater, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Mar 1915, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 1898  Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [17] 
    Children 
     1. Mabel Grace GREENLAND,   b. 7 Feb 1902, 143 Clarendon Place, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Sep 1974  (Age 72 years)
     2. George Walter GREENLAND,   b. 1 Oct 1903, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 11 Dec 1908, Charlton Cemetery, Dover, Kent, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 5 years)
     3. Arthur Edward GREENLAND,   b. 12 Sep 1905, 33 Malmains Rd, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 30 Dec 2018 
    Family ID F280  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Henrietta E BLACKMAN,   b. 1876, Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 1917  Dover, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [18] 
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2012 
    Family ID F2307  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Histories
    Jacob Winter GREENLAND (Mariner) - Inquest into suspected Drowning, 26 Aug 1883    		Jacob Winter GREENLAND (Mariner) – Inquest into suspected Drowning, 26 Aug 1883
    My paternal grandfather, George Willis, used to tell the family legend of his grandfather, Jacob Greenland, and how he was ‘a Lighter Man on the boats. One night he was visiting a boat and on going down an iron ladder on a pier he slipped and was killed. He was doing someone else’s shift at the time.’

    It’s only since I began researching…

    1939 Register
    The 1939 Register - GREENLAND, John & Henrietta (nee Blackman)    		The 1939 Register - GREENLAND, John & Henrietta (nee Blackman)
    Living at 23 Malmains Road, Dover, Kent, England

    Census Records
    1881 - GREENLAND, Jacob & Mary Ann [MAYNE]    		1881 - GREENLAND, Jacob & Mary Ann [MAYNE]
    1881 Census return for Jacob & Mary Ann Greenland at 3, Round Tower Lane, Dover St Mary the Virgin, Dover, Kent, England.
    1901 - GREENLAND, John & Grace     		1901 - GREENLAND, John & Grace
    1901 Census return for John & Grace Greenland at 143, Clarendon Place, Dover, Kent, England.
    1911 - GREENLAND, John Jacob    		1911 - GREENLAND, John Jacob
    1911 Census return for John Greenland, 1st Mate on board the 'Calais', moored in Calais Harbour, France.

    Military & Maritime
    GREENLAND, John Jacob - Record card from The Merchant Navy Seamen 1918-1941 records.    		GREENLAND, John Jacob - Record card from The Merchant Navy Seamen 1918-1941 records.
    Notes:
    Rating: Chief Mate
    Height: 5' 6"
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Grey
    Tattoo Marks: Mole on right cheek
    Next of kin: Mrs Greenland (Wife)
    23 Malmains Road, Dover

    Newspapers
    GREENLAND, John Jacob: Merchant Seamen's Orphan School place [London Evening Standard - 08 October 1884]    		GREENLAND, John Jacob: Merchant Seamen's Orphan School place [London Evening Standard - 08 October 1884]
    'MR JAMES DURDEN, Harbour Master at Dover, desires to THANK those who assisted him by their VOTES in getting into to MERCHANT SEAMEN'S ORPHAN SCHOOL JOHN JACOB GREENLAND, who was elected by 665 Votes.'

    The Merchant Seamen's Orphan Asylum was founded on November 1 1827, at a meeting of highly respectable gentlemen chaired by General Nveille at…

    Portraits
    GREENLAND, John Jacob (1873 - 1953)    		GREENLAND, John Jacob (1873 - 1953)

  • Notes 
    • Interestingly, the 1851 Census for the West Bromich Union Workshouse in Staffordshire list among its inmates the Greenland family. Family head, Thomas [56, born in Frome, Somerset] was 'Master of Workland'. His wife Jane [40] was born in Tipton in Staffordshire. Of their five children, two of them were born in Tipton.

    Christened:
    • The name in the parish records is recorded as 'Jacob John Greenland', rather then 'John Jacob Greenland'.

  • Sources 
    1. [S04] **1901 England Census, Class: RG13; Piece: 842; Folio: 79; Page: 15.
      Name: John GreenlandBirth Date: abt 1874Birth Place: Staffordshire, EnglandResidence Date: 1901Residence Place: Dover, Kent, England
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1901&h=21605229&ti=5538&indiv=try

    2. [S09] **1881 England Census, Class: RG11; Piece: 1004; Folio: 63; Page: 18; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341238.
      Name: Jacob GreenlandBirth: abt 1873 in Triplow, Staffordshire, EnglandDeath:
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&h=8552085&ti=5538&indiv=try

    3. [S12] FreeBMD - Birth Index: 1837-1983, http://www.freebmd.org.uk .

    4. [S12] FreeBMD - Birth Index: 1837-1983, http://www.freebmd.org.uk , Dudley 6c 54.

    5. [S250] FindMyPast.co.uk.
      The Merchant Navy Seamen 1918-1941 records.

    6. [S166] Family Search, (https://www.familysearch.org/), https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV6C-MMN.
      England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975,\" index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV6C-MMN : accessed 27 Aug 2012), Jacob John Greenland, 12 Nov 1873; citing reference 713 p90, FHL microfilm 6085678

    7. [S09] **1881 England Census, RG11/1004/F?.

    8. [S313] Berkshire Record Office, (Ref: D/EX2363/C1/1) pg.5 (Reliability: 3).
      Transcription of Admission Register, provided by Louise Woof, Archivist at Berkshire Records Office in an email dated 09 Jan 2019.

    9. [S313] Berkshire Record Office (Reliability: 3).
      Transcription of Admission Register, provided by Louise Woof, Archivist at Berkshire Records Office in an email dated 09 Jan 2019.

    10. [S313] Berkshire Record Office, Annual Report 1887 (Ref: D/EX2363/A2/1/47) pg.47 (Reliability: 3).
      Transcription of Admission Register, provided by Louise Woof, Archivist at Berkshire Records Office in an email dated 09 Jan 2019.

    11. [S04] **1901 England Census, RG13/0842/~F79.

    12. [S313] Berkshire Record Office, Annual Report 1885 (Ref: D/EX2363/A2/1/48) pg.28 (Reliability: 3).
      Transcription of Admission Register, provided by Louise Woof, Archivist at Berkshire Records Office in an email dated 09 Jan 2019.

    13. [S303] 1939 Register, Ref: RG101/1710B/017/11 Letter Code:.

    14. [S166] Family Search, (https://www.familysearch.org/).
      "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCF-PRL7 : 4 September 2014), John J Greenland, 1953; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Dover, Kent, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

    15. [S12] FreeBMD - Birth Index: 1837-1983, http://www.freebmd.org.uk , Dover 2a 978 (Reliability: 3).


    16. [S18] FreeBMD - Marriage Index: 1837-1983 (Reliability: 3).

    17. [S18] FreeBMD - Marriage Index: 1837-1983, 1898 - DecQ - Dover 2a 2187 (Reliability: 3).

    18. [S18] FreeBMD - Marriage Index: 1837-1983, 1917, JunQ - Dover 2a 2211.