John GORMAN

1844 - 1921  (77 years)

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• Name	John GORMAN  [1, 2]
  Born	1844	St Georges, Dublin, Ireland   [1, 2, 3]
  Gender	Male
  Census	1911	24 Winchelsea Terrace, Dover, Kent, England
  	Occupation: General Labourer
  Census	1901	17 Winchelsea Terrace, Dover, Kent, England
  	Occupation: Harbour Contractors Diver's Attendant
  Census	1891	Joss Street, Dartmouth, Devon, England
  	Occupation: Pension from Army
  Military & Maritime	23 Nov 1863	Dublin, Ireland
  	Enlisted in the Royal Artillery, aged 19
  Military & Maritime	21 May 1864	Bombay, India
  	Arrived in India from Gravesend.
  	Age: 20
  Military & Maritime	9 Jul 1864	Gravesend, Kent, England
  	Embarked for Bombay at Gravesend in the ship Agamemnon
  	Age: 20
  Residence	7 Oct 1864	Nepal   [4]
  	Stationed with 24th Brigade, Royal Artillery
  Residence	16 Mar 1868	Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh, northern India   [4]
  	Stationed with 24th Brigade, Royal Artillery. Dharamshala was known as Bhagsu when John was stationed there.
  Residence	17 Feb 1869	Gwalior Fort, Madhya Pradesh, India   [4]
  	Stationed wth 24th Brigade, Royal Artillery
  Residence	25 Nov 1871	Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan   [4]
  	Stationed with 24th Brigade, Royal Artillery. This was part of British India when John was stationed here.
  Residence	23 Jan 1875	Fort Govindghar, Amritsar, India   [4]
  	Stationed with 23rd Brigade, Royal Artillery
  Residence	16 Mar 1877	St Thomas' Mount, Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India   [4]
  	Stationed with 5th Brigade, Royal Artillery
  Residence	31 Dec 1877	Rangoon, Burma   [4]
  	Stationed with 8th Brigade, Royal Artillery
  Residence	21 Jan 1878	Rangoon, Burma
  	Marriage to Ellen Nicholls
  Residence	19 Jun 1878	Rangoon, Burma
  	Birth of son, James Gorman
  Residence	21 May 1881	Woolwich, London, England   [4]
  	Stationed with 8th Brigade, Royal Artillery
  Residence	2 Jun 1881	Dover Castle, Dover, Kent, England   [4]
  	Stationed with 1st Brigade, Cinque Ports Division, Royal Artillery
  Residence	10 Nov 1883	Dover Castle Barracks, Dover, Kent, England
  	Birth of son, Patrick Gorman
  Residence	27 Mar 1884	Pembroke Dock, Dyfed, Wales   [4]
  	Stationed with 1st Brigade, Cinque Ports Division, Royal Artillery
  Military & Maritime	30 Dec 1884
  	Discharged from the Army. His pension was 12 pence per day for life from 31/12/1884 His pension number was 13225.
  	Age: 40
  Died	1921	Dover, Kent, England   [5]
  Person ID	I1324	WILLIS01
  Last Modified	25 Apr 2021

  
  

  Mother	Mary GORMAN ,   b. Abt 1820
  Children	+ 1. John GORMAN,   b. 1844, St Georges, Dublin, Ireland ,   d. 1921, Dover, Kent, England  (Age 77 years)
  Family ID	F3121	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Spouse / Partner	Ellen PYNE 2x    ,   b. 1845, Blackawton, Devon, England ,   d. 28 Mar 1917, 24 Winchelsea Terrace, Dover, Kent, England  (Age ~ 71 years)
  Married	21 Jan 1878	Garrison Church, Rangoon, Burma   [4, 6]
  Children	1. James GORMAN ,   b. 19 Jun 1878, Rangoon, Burma ,   d. 29 Dec 1889, 30 Clarendon Place, Dover, Kent, England  (Age 11 years) + 2. John GORMAN ,   b. 29 Aug 1880, Rangoon, Burma ,   d. 25 Mar 1917, 37 Victoria Street, Dover, Kent, England  (Age 36 years) + 3. Patrick Henry GORMAN ,   b. 10 Nov 1883, Dover Castle Barracks, Dover, Kent, England ,   d. 1970, Surrey North District, England  (Age 86 years)
  Last Modified	17 Mar 2013
  Family ID	F233	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Photos

  Wedding of William Nicholls and Susannah Kingsnorth, Faversham 1895.

  
  

  Histories

  Ellen Pyne - Matriarch & Military Wife From rural Devon, Ellen Gorman went on to lead a remarkable life, demonstrating an indomitable strength of character and perseverance to push on through life despite the ‘slings and arrows’ that life threw at her.

  
  

  Census Records » Slide Show		1891 - GORMAN, John & Ellen [PYNE/NICHOLLS]
  		1901 - GORMAN, John & Ellen [PYNE/NICHOLLS]
  		1911 - GORMAN, John & Ellen [PYNE/NICHOLLS] 1911 Census return for John & Ellen Gorman at 24 Winchelsea Terrace, Dover, Kent, England

  
  

  Military & Maritime

  GORMAN, John - Pension Discharge papers

  
  

  Obituaries

  GORMAN,Ellen: Funeral Report - Ellen Gorman (nee Nicholls, nee Pyme). Dover Express 06 April 1917

  
  

  Portraits

  GORMAN, John (1844 - 1921)

  
  

  Albums

  GORMAN, John - Attestation Papers - 23 Nov 1863 (10) Attestation papers & Pension Discharge papers

  
  

• Notes

  In the 1901 Census John(and his step-son, William Nicholls) list their occupation as 'Harbour Contractor's Diver's Attendant'. It was the attendant's job to look after the diver he was engaged by, to assist him with the putting on of his elaborate equipment, watch him go down below the surface of the water in the diving bell, and then to stand by in readiness to deal with any signal made to him by the man who had vanished from his sight. Sometimes the diver made his descent from an anchored vessel, generally a ketch known as a 'diver's boat', and sometimes from the edge of a pier, or other structure overlooking the spot where work was being taken in hand. Residence: The Medical Records in John's Attestation Papers note that from 18 - 25 May 1884 he was in hospital following a near-drowning in Pembroke Dock. The cause was listed as 'accident on duty'. Further enquiries have revealed that the moat around the fort at Pembroke never held water, so to get their weekly bath they went to the river. It appears some men got into problems, and on this day the water was running very fast and they had to be pulled out and taken to the hospital. However one died in the night.

  
  

• Sources

  [S04] **1901 England Census, Class: RG13; Piece: 843; Folio: 8; Page: 8. Name: John GormanBirth: abt 1845 in Dublin, IrelandDeath: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1901&h=21608229&ti=0&indiv=try [S05] **1891 England Census, Class: RG12; Piece: 1710; Folio 89; Page 8; GSU roll: 6096820. Name: John GormanBirth Date: abt 1845Birth Place: St Mary, Dublin, IrelandResidence Date: 1891Residence Place: Dartmouth, Devon, England http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1891&h=3004654&ti=0&indiv=try [S11] *England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005, Ancestry.com, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007.Original data - General Register Office. England a), Dover vol 2a page 131. [S229] Attestation Papers [Military]. [S13] FreeBMD - Death Index: 1837-1983, http://www.freebmd.org.uk, Dover vol 2a page 131 (Reliability: 3). [S101] Families In British India Society [FIBIS], Transcription of Bengal Marriage Indexes 1874 - 1896.